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Nov. 11th, 2005 10:35 am
featherynscale: Schmendrick the magician from The Last Unicorn (Default)
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Temporary Anonymous Zone.

Make sekrit comments here, please. You will not be investigated (by me, anyway).
(Hint: Log Out First.)

Date: 2005-11-11 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I want to be the girl, and I want you to be the boy, in one of my fantasies with you. Then I want to be the girl, and you be the girl in another.

But I am probably not being all that secret anymore ;-)

Date: 2005-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I don't know who you are. I have a list of people I might hope you are, though!
From: (Anonymous)
Or at least I think that works ;-)

Date: 2005-11-11 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Love is what seperates us from animals "
"No, Lister. What seperates us from animals is that we don't use our tongues to clean our own genitals. "

Date: 2005-11-11 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
But a lot of us would, if we could.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
...and we'd never get anything else accomplished again.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Oddly enough, LiveJournal has much the same effect.

I can't understand

Date: 2005-11-11 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
All the hurting in the world. People who are hurting and hurt others in order to try to make themselves hurt less. People who are hurting and push others away.

Why is there so much pain? Why do we hurt ourselves? Why do we hurt others?

Re: I can't understand

Date: 2005-11-11 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Because humans are stupid and evil.

I would like the opportunity

Date: 2005-11-11 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
to meet you and yours in person ;-)

Re: I would like the opportunity

Date: 2005-11-11 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'd like that, but need to wait until things settle down on my end.....

Re: I would like the opportunity

Date: 2005-11-11 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That's all right then. You should tell us who you are sometime between now and when you drop by though, so we'll know who to expect.

Re: I would like the opportunity

Date: 2005-11-14 03:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can I jump in and claim it was me, so I can visit?

Re: I would like the opportunity

Date: 2005-11-14 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
No, not you anonymous guy... only that other anonymous guy was allowed to. **eyeroll**
Of course, silly. But the same rules apply. You have to tell us who you are first.

Date: 2005-11-11 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Brother bought a coconut, he bought it for a dime
His sister had another one, she paid it for a lime.
She put the lime in the coconut, she drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, she drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, she drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, she called the doctor, woke him up,
And said, "DOCTOR!
ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, DOCTOR,
to relieve this belly ache?
I say, DOCTOR,
ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, DOCTOR,
to relieve this belly ache?"
"Now let me get this straight ",
Put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
Put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
Put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
Put the lime in the coconut, you called your doctor, woke him up,
And say, 'DOCTOR,
ain't there nothing I can take,
I say, DOCTOR,
to relieve this belly ache?
I say, DOCTOR, doctor,
ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, DOCTOR, dooooctor,
to relieve this belly ache?'
Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, then you feel better,
Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both up,
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning
Woo woo woo woo woo

Date: 2005-11-11 06:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-11-11 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I never really got the point of polyamory.

Date: 2005-11-11 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
It's certainly not for everybody. But then, what is?

Date: 2005-11-11 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oxygen?

Date: 2005-11-11 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I had a bet on with myself that someone would say that.

"Oxygen's for losers!" - Dave Lister

Date: 2005-11-11 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I never really got the point of monogamy.

And I'm not just being quip. In my first relationship, I went with monogamy b/c it's the cultural default right now and spent two years basically forcing myself to care about what my partner was doing and having to put up with him caring about what I was doing in a way that felt so unnatural to me.

I am never doing that again. And don't tell me I wasn't really in love. I've been with my second boyfriend for nearly seven years and... well I hate mushy stuff but imagine a bunch of it here because he often makes me want to say things that I'm way to embarrassed to write down. I've also been dating another very nice boy for a year now.

Our other past relationships have never been harmful to our relationship. There has been nothing any weirder than my mono friends have been through with there mono relationships. And we're way more honest with each other than most of them in general, and not just b/c many of them cheat, just more open in general.

If mono feels right to you, go ahead and do it. But don't walk around with the assumption that poly people are making this weird effort. For at least some of us, it's what feels natural.

Date: 2005-11-17 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-clevergir259.livejournal.com
Sorry to stir up the conversation so late, but I think it's great that you discuss the "mushy details" of your polyamourous relationships. It seems to me that the ones that get the most attention are the ones that end up in messy, public breakups, (http://www.ljdrama.org/index.php?p=1122) while the happy relationships fly under the radar.

:-)

Date: 2005-11-11 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
you are intelligent, sexy, creative, beautiful and a great kisser. Love to do it again some time

Date: 2005-11-11 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Sounds lovely, but you should give me a couple-four weeks on that (unless you were also at [livejournal.com profile] starwyse's party last weekend, in which case you were exposed to the same infectious material I was, and it won't matter).

Date: 2005-11-11 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
How anonymous is this thing we call the internet, really?

How come...

Date: 2005-11-11 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
...when a man has sex with two women at once, he's using both of them, but when a woman has sex with two men, they're both using her?

...if you like brussel sprouts and I don't like brussel sprouts, we assume we're just interpreting our senses differently, but no one does that with vision?

Re: How come...

Date: 2005-11-11 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I don't know man. When I have sex with two men, I'm pretty sure everybody's happy with the situation and nobody's using anybody, especially.

And, I do that with vision. Me and generations of German psychologists, baby.

Re: How come...

Date: 2005-11-11 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Same here, on both counts. Continental philosophy and a dose of Daoism and Buddhism for the thing about vision.

Date: 2005-11-11 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I made a promise long ago to stay with her. She changed the rules on me so that I feel trapped and helpless. But my ethics won't allow me to leave. Just because she changed the rules doesn't mean that I get to.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If the rules have changed, it's no longer the same game.

Date: 2005-11-12 09:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But this game is the only one in which I am able to live my life with her. She's in my happy place; I'm not sure I can be happy without her. I'm currently working on determining if I can be happy under her terms. The prognosis isn't good.

That sucks;

Date: 2005-11-11 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
However I would view it as breach of contract if I were you, and sue for new terms. At the very least.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I knew someone would break my heart today. Ah well.

Does she know you are not happy? Can you not decide on rules that both of you can play by?

(Also, I said that I would not try to find out who posted what, and I stand by that, but there's a list of people that I really hope you aren't...) :(

Date: 2005-11-12 09:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm not anyone that you are in a relationship with. I'm sorry to've broken your heart today since I think you are absolutely delightful. Thank you for providing a place to express this.

It is of course a bit more complex that what I stated first.
I'm also still very much in love with her and really, really don't want to live without her. She told me for many years that we could be polyamorous and that she just needed adjustment time. Or I woulid try something minor and there would be some reason that it was just the wrong time.
Finally, I said that I was done with waiting and I needed to be able to form other relationships as well as keep my relationship with her. Me insisting that I needed to do this put her into the psych ward rather than killing herself.

We tried couples counseling. One fellow wrote a paper on what we were going through. It's nice to be interesting but it didn't fix our problem. We do communicate better now though. She says that she thought she could do poly but has determined that she can't and if I have to that means that she'll have to leave. She says that she won't kill herself but she would move away so that she doesn't have painful reminders.

I don't want to live my life without her but I don't know that I can live my life without expressing my love and affection for a few of the other people in my life. She doesn't want to live her life without me but can't cope with the continual feeling of abandonment if I love others. It's not a trust issue, it is the way that she defines life-commitment.

I'm trying things as monoamorously as possible for at least a year. She can tell that I'm in pain but what would solve my pain would put her in just as much pain. I am a bit stronger than she; proof being that I've not wanted to kill myself. Who knows what will happen when sometime next year I decide that I must love only her or I must express my feelings for others rather than keep them bottled up.

Date: 2005-11-12 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Oh honey. Bad times. I'm sorry you're going through all that. *generally pets the Internet, hoping to catch above poster*

There are a lot of things that you can split the house on, but that's not often one of them. :(
No useful advice, just commiseration.

Date: 2005-11-20 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just giving me a place to vent when I needed do was immeasurable help. Thank you.

Date: 2005-11-11 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love you. Madly, truly, deeply, in every way imaginable.

Date: 2005-11-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Enough to watch her prepare 4 hours before a ball? :D
Enough to buy chocolate ice cream from the store at 2 a.m. because she wants it?

(no offence, featherynscale!)

Date: 2005-11-12 02:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Enough for all that and more. I will gladly slog through 4 feet of snow or flood waters or any other obstacle, at 2 am, to the only store open for the last carton of chocolate ice cream, if such is what she wants/asks for/wishes. And gladly go back for a different flavor if she then changes her mind.

Date: 2005-11-12 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That's pretty drastic, honey. I can promise with 90% certainty that I will never, ever ask you, or anyone else to do that.

Date: 2005-11-12 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ah, but if you did, I would. Because you're absolutely worth it, lovely.

(Different Poster)

Date: 2005-11-12 08:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that I have gone to the store for ice cream at 2 am, but it was pretty much mutually beneficial, as is watching her prepare for something dressy for 4 hours. After all, as difficult as it might be to see her take so long to get ready, it's Sooo much fun to be there for the undressing later. :D

Re: (Different Poster)

Date: 2005-11-12 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
**eyeroll** :-)
I don't think I've ever taken four hours to get ready for anything that didn't require full stage makeup and a dresser, and even then, I'm not sure.
Goofball. :)

Date: 2005-11-14 03:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love reading about you and your other two thirds, and wished you all lived nearby. Like, you'd make great neighbors.

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