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Yesterday, a Mysterious Package arrived in the post. "ThinkGeek" it said on the label, and I went, "eh?". For lo, I am a ThinkGeek shopper, but I was pretty sure everything I'd ordered had already come in. So, there was a rush to open the mysterious package, to find a Polarity game, from someone who I presume to be [livejournal.com profile] lexpendragon. Or, at least, I think so. The internet is really, really great (for porn!), but it sometimes leads to situations in which you only know people by their internet names. But thank you, Probably 'Lex, for a very excellent toy. I've not gotten to play with it yet, but J., our houseguest, was doing some quite impressive things with it last night.

Me, last night, I was running about getting the last pieces for [livejournal.com profile] triadruid's upgrade. At some point during the contemplation of this process, possibly when J. was mocking me about being excited about the fact that the case came with extra screws, I announced to the household, "I like things that go beep!", at which point [livejournal.com profile] kittenpants chimed in with "Beep! I go beep!", and there was much amusement.

The putting together of the new machine was met with the usual disasters. I bled on it, cursed at it, dropped a thumbscrew down the front of the case where it was a pain in the ass to retrieve, looked at some bits of it and went, "What even are you? I don't know what you are or where you go!", and so on and so forth. Finally got the thing together about midnight, then plugged it in, and *pfffft*, it won't turn on. Not like it won't POST, it just won't turn on. No power nowhere in the box itself. Don't know why. Got pissed off, went to bed. Probably, in my sleepy and addled state, I've forgotten to plug something in, or plugged it in backwards, or something. Or, [livejournal.com profile] triadruid might have been trying to tell me last night that he hadn't flipped the power switch on the back of the machine. Maybe. I knew he was saying something about the switch, but was too sleepy to tell if he was saying he had flipped it, or hadn't. *shrug* So, I'm going to look at it again tonight, and if I can't manage to make it work, I imagine I'll be crying for help. Can one of you technical creatures back me up here, if needed?

re: the switch

Date: 2005-12-20 03:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
No, all I was saying was that I had, in fact, flipped the main power switch from 0 to 1.

I imagine it's just a power lead inside somewhere that we missed.

Re: the switch

Date: 2005-12-20 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
OK. I was having a hard time with complex concepts at that point. :)

Date: 2005-12-20 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccak1961.livejournal.com
About the only help I can offer is to wish you good luck. I'm happily surrounded by men who love and live for this sort of thing, and it's my great joy to contribute by making cookies and giving lots of praise.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erusumbros.livejournal.com
You would be referencing the creation of a new spe...I mean computer right?

If so, something you may want to check would be the configuration on the motherboard for where you plug in the ports from the case itself leading to the Power Switch and the reset switch.

If they aren't sitting on the right pins, you'll never get the damn thing to turn on.

Date: 2005-12-20 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That's what I suspect has happened. I don't see small things well in the best of circumstances, and plugging front panel leads was one of the last things I did, so was pretty tired at that point. I'll be checking those first!

Date: 2005-12-20 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erusumbros.livejournal.com
That's what I suspected.

You might also want to check the manual from the Mobo and see if the CMOS is grounded on pins 1&2. Little plastic pin.

Sometimes they come in weird combo's, though I'll put money on the Power Switch leads being wrong. Done that too many times myself.

P.S. Nice to know that you have to bleed when making a PC as well. It seems that everytime I install something new on my computer, or even build a new system I always bleed.

Sacrifice to the good computing gods.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That set looked good - it came jumpered, and I didn't mess with it.

Also, yeah, the bleeding seems to be a required part of the process. It's important to note, though, that in this case, I was actually bleeding before I even popped the case open. It was sort of like I thought about building a machine, and the thought alone was enough to make me bleed. Techie stigmata. It was a little creepy.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erusumbros.livejournal.com
And yet...kinda hot if you're a tech geek.

Date: 2005-12-20 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Kinda, yeah.

My relationship to machinery has always been a little on the kinky side.

Power

Date: 2005-12-20 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com
Odd that your blood sacrifice didn't help, though your curses may have negated the sacrifice.

Sounds like a voltmeter might be a useful thing to dig out at this point. Though ATX power supplies are weird.

Once I was building a machine and was puzzled when the power seemed to come on just long enough for the POST to begin, then it died and restarted, over and over. I returned the case/powersupply. Later I realized that the power supply was probably set to 240V rather than 120V.

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I wish I had a voltmeter to dig out. That's one of the reasons I might need assistance. My assembly tool kit consists of a screwdriver and a flashlight. :(

Anyway, it doesn't even get to the over/underpowered sort of stage right now, you just push the button and nothing happens. So I'm envisioning that something is plugged to the wrong pins, perhaps, and after checking that, I'll look at inoperable components. I hope it's option A and not option B, because option A is a much quicker and easier fix...

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orcjohn.livejournal.com
Let me know and I'll come over voltmeter and computer toolkit in hand. Sorry didn't make it over Sunday to help in the first place. Agree with erusumbros that it is probably just front panel connector though.

Wanna come over and tinker with my box?

Date: 2005-12-20 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Squee! Thank you, oh ye with the tools. I think that probably is what it is, too, but I'm not letting out the possibility that I've done something really, really stupid.

Re: Wanna come over and tinker with my box?

Date: 2005-12-20 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orcjohn.livejournal.com
I'll tinker with your box (and anything else I can get my hands on) anytime you like *grin*. Am busy tonight, but free most of the rest of the week. Let me know.

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticwhistlin.livejournal.com
Can you call me and give me directions to your place. I plan on comeing right over after work, even though I just realized that I left my reference materials at home. :-) All I need is to diagram the area anyway. The analisys is later...

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
If you're going to [livejournal.com profile] orcjohn's house, I have a ton of stuff that needs to go over there -- could you stop by our place and get it? We're sort of on the way.

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticwhistlin.livejournal.com
Absolutly. Do you happen to know the way in case I am unable to get ahold of [livejournal.com profile] orcjohn to get directions. I do not have access to my personal email to mapquest his house.

The Way

Date: 2005-12-20 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Regrettably, no, I do not know the way. However, I think I can look it up this afternoon -- I should have the address somewhere...

Re: The Way

Date: 2005-12-20 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticwhistlin.livejournal.com
I have his addy and phone number in my web mail if all else fails. Will someone be home around 5:30? That is my first least conservative guesstimate when I will be at your place. I have never really driven in rush hour traffic to your house. :-p Should be interesting.

Re: The Way

Date: 2005-12-20 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Yeah, C will be home then, and I probably will be, too. It will be helpful if I am, since I don't know that she knows where aforementioned stuff is currently residing.

Re: The Way

Date: 2005-12-20 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticwhistlin.livejournal.com
Well... that would tend to help. :-) I get off at 5:00 and can only hope that traffic isn't too bad.

Totally off topic... our meeting is Thursday 6:30 ish, your place. Right?

The meeting

Date: 2005-12-20 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That's what I hear. :) Unless it's at 7. Something like that, though.

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orcjohn.livejournal.com
Um... sure if you give me your phone number I'll be happy to.

Re: Power

Date: 2005-12-20 10:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-12-21 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexpendragon.livejournal.com
So, there was a rush to open the mysterious package, to find a Polarity game, from someone who I presume to be [livejournal.com profile] lexpendragon.

That It Was, It Was A Gift For The Three Of You, But Think Geek Seems To Have Decided To Entirely Left Out The 'Gift Message' I Added On The Ones I Had Them Deliever Directly. You're The Second Person I'd Sent A Gift To Who Had It Arrive Anonymously.

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