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Well, last night I was unexpectedly productive on the film list, and knocked out Van Helsing and Troy in a single sitting. Go go gadget ass-numbness.

We went up to the Red Bridge 4, on the premise that since we had a movie theater right down the road, we ought to visit it every once in awhile, instead of going all the way up to Ward Parkway. As it turns out, they don't so much take time to turn on the lights and clean the theaters between films at the RB4, so if you are the sort of person who stays through the credits of one film, you're likely to catch the previews of whatever film is showing next. After having suffered through Van Helsing, the other members of the household felt that staying for Troy was sort of the moral equivalent of taking asshole tax. So we stayed in the theater and caught both films.

I have to say, I enjoyed both films, which probably says something about my moviegoing taste. Van Helsing was very stupid, but a lot of fun, and riffed on all the awesome and goofy old Universal Monsters films... and I really liked the inventor monk fellow - anyone who describes themselves as "a genius with access to unstable chemicals" is okay in my book. Everything in the film is madly uneven and varies widely from scene to scene, from the horrible accents to the overall look of the vampires... you get the impression that ILM went to the directors and said, "Hey, we've got seven really cool concepts for vampire effects, which one do you like?" and the directors went, "Perfect! Let's use them all!". The costumes were great, and the masked ball scene, although somewhat ridiculous in context, was worth the price of admission.

Troy, on the other hand, was a reasonably good film. Aside from the obvious appeal of Brad Pitt in a black leather mini-skirt, it has epic appeal, (mostly) well-written dialog, and fantastic battle scenes. I'm a sucker for "big" film-making, and on this count, it does not disappoint. It makes some serious departures from the story as I know it, which left me going, "Huh?" but other than that was altogether decent. And, you know, Brad Pitt in a black leather mini-skirt. I'm about ready to petition for a moratorium on the John Woo/Matrix style bullet-time fight scene though. It's silly enough in gunfights, but in sword-and-shield matches, it's completely ridiculous. Fortunately, the technique is only used in a few sequences, and is over very quickly, almost before you have a chance to ask, "What the hell is bullet-time doing in a swordfight?". So that's good. I'm concerned that the film makes Paris out to be much more heroic than is strictly necessary, but you do sort of spend the first 3/4 of the film wanting to tell him to shut up and sit down. If I'd been Hector, I'd have bitch-slapped him at several points in the story. But maybe that's just me.

Re: A Knight's Tale & Moulin Rouge

Date: 2004-05-14 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I missed Knight's Tale, and only caught a little bit of Moulin Rouge (which I consider no great loss, as I generally dislike musicals and specifically dislike Baz Luhrmann). I consider that sort of thing to be a different animal than the Van Helsing/LXG class - steampunk is a specific sort of anachronism, wherein the out-of-place elements are almost entirely scientific, rather than cultural. Note that I don't consider either Van Helsing or LXG to be particuarly good representations of the class, but still definitely members.

I didn't manage to get LXG as spoof either - the source material is wildly speculative, but generally straight material - a trait which the film unfortunately shared. Had it been a spoof, it would have almost certainly been better. VH, since it had so many elements lifted directly from the monster classics, sort of toes the spoof line - enough for me to see it and enjoy it that way, but probably not enough to indicate that the filmmakers were consciously making caricature.

I keep meaning to ask you

Date: 2004-05-14 01:55 pm (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (pointy on 3 of 3 ends)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
What ARE some good examples of steampunk movies? Dark City is too futuristic, but I can't think of one you and I have both seen that we actually liked... it can't possibly be that inherently bad of a genre.

Re: I keep meaning to ask you

Date: 2004-05-14 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I hate to say it, but the genre is perilously small and bad when it comes to film, I think. Actual Verne- and Wells-based material tends to be one's best option, though the recent "Time Machine" movie proved that even this was not reliable. For whatever reason, it seems to be much more difficult to pull off on film than in writing.

It's also my humble opinion that the genre gets treated better by animated stuff than by live-action film. We are anxiously anticipating the release of SteamBoy (http://www.steamboy.net/intro.shtml), should it ever actually arrive in the US.

Re: A Knight's Tale & Moulin Rouge

Date: 2004-05-14 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
When I was talking about LXG, I wasn't meaning it was a spoof. Just Knight's Tale. I had great hopes for LXG. It could have been great, but what a mess. (The idea of Tom Sawyer as a Pinkerton man was inspired. Just the sort of thing he would have grown up to be.) Odd, thought, that I always liked Wild, Wild West on TV when I was a kid. I like the difference of plain old anachronism vs. a more science fiction concept.

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