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OK. I swear to gods there is context for this, but I think I'll get a better data set if I don't give it just yet. This poll is mostly for the male-bodied folks, but female-bodied folks are also welcome to answer, for the purposes of Science, and stuff.

[Poll #621624]

Also, in unrelated news, we watched Velvet Goldmine last night. We in this case means me, [livejournal.com profile] triadruid, and [livejournal.com profile] saffronhare. The film is beautiful, but really, really bad. The whole viewing experience was a little like Mystery Science Theater 3000, the Sexual Tension Edition. I mean, really, the only good bit about the film is that a)Ewan McGregor takes his pants off, b) Jonathan Rhys Meyers wears a dress, and c)Ewan McGregor's character and Jonathan Rhys Meyers' character shag. Which is, really, when you think about it, pretty good. Unfortunately, it's wrapped up in an overwrought piece of incomprehensible, badly-lit, badly-scripted fluff that for some reason also includes UFOs, Oscar Wilde, a mysterious fellow called Jack Fairy who may or may not even be involved in the plot of the film, but shows up at critical junctures anyway, and some fairly unlikely shots of schoolgirls and small boys, interspersed. Also, perhaps, Duran Duran. I'm not sure about that last bit. I wasn't sure about a lot of bits. Most of the movie was spent alternating between going "wow, that's hot" and "what the hell?".

Also, I totally have a complex now about the fact that I will never, ever, ever, be as pretty as Jonathan Rhys Meyers. Ah well.

Re: Mostly unrelated

Date: 2005-11-28 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Wow. What an educational day this is turning out to be. Also, I totally needed a Boys Kissing icon for this post. Want to make me one?

Genitalia

Date: 2005-11-28 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
I figure that the definition of "artistic purposes" is rather broad.

Amusingly enough, pictures of my genitals -have- been used in an art project in the past, so if you need such, I have some already. (pictures that is. The genitals are likely assumed.)

Re: Genitalia

Date: 2005-11-28 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I'm not quite to that point yet (which assumes that it will ever get to that point, which it might not -- I may get bored with the idea altogether). But if I do, I'll let you know.

Also, I will describe the project in a later post. This was based on a side conversation that discussion of the project engendered, and which I thought was entertaining enough to stand on its own.

Also, yes, I generally assume you have genitals. :)

Re: Genitalia

Date: 2005-11-28 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com
This was based on a side conversation that discussion of the project engendered, and which I thought was entertaining enough to stand on its own.

That was a horrible cluster-pun, so, of course, now I love you.
(and commas)

Re: Genitalia

Date: 2005-11-28 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
I thought someone out there might appreciate that. I'm horrible prone to such things.

er.

Date: 2005-11-28 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
.
.
::blinky::

Re: How about two?

Date: 2005-11-28 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenpants.livejournal.com
I. Um. Yeah.

Wow.

Yes.

Re: How about two?

Date: 2005-11-28 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com
*adam hand-fans the Kitten*

Re: How about two?

Date: 2005-11-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
**promptly melts**

Thank you!!

Re: How about two?

Date: 2005-11-28 09:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-11-28 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duriyah.livejournal.com
That is absolutely the funniest review/summary of Velvet Goldmine. I haven't seen it in several years, but I do believe that you captured the film perfectly.

And sadly, I agree that I will never be as pretty as Jonathan Rhys Meyers. Sigh.....

More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-28 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekatatia.livejournal.com
A most strange and mostly nonsensical story...yet it makes more sense with repeated viewings. In fact, most of the stuff I scoffed at grew on me. Including that damn Babys On Fire song. *hangs head in shame* Most of the film is based on David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust and his relations with Iggy Pop. I've read Bowie liked the film and thought it had no resemblance to his life. I suspect Jack Fairy is partially a nod to Brian Ferry, who wrote several songs they remade for the movie.

I love Eddie Izzard in this film - he's good at smarmy. And that painting of Jean Harlow above his desk is actually him.

The film is Duran Duran free. However, Placebo play the band that young Christian Bale hangs around with while wearing painful make-up in need of serious derision.

Re: More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-28 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com
ahahhaha! I suggested that piece of art was actually Eddie, and was dismissed. Harumph.

Re: More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-28 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
It seems like if they would have dropped the "reporter/ten years later" conceit and just gone with a reasonably linear story about love during the rise and fall of the glam-rock empire, it would have been a better picture. Christian Bale is pretty laughable throughout (though painfully cute in the sort of "Aww! Don't you just want to squeeze him!" way), and the personal connection between him and the Slade story was just too much to buy. I'd have bought the random Oscar Wilde UFO before that.

Also, the musical bits (I thought) were pretty good (I was ludicrously fond of the acoustic guitar bit with Slade in the purple dress "Somebody called me Sebastian"... I giggled and giggled.).

I suppose it does make more sense if it's Iggy Pop. I thought Curt Wild was supposed to be Mick Jagger, but it really wasn't completely working for me. Iggy Pop, could be.

Also, [livejournal.com profile] triadruid spotted the Eddie/Harlow picture, and we mocked him! Now I must apologize! And I did recognize the always-charming Brian Molko.

And I suppose not really Duran Duran -- the fellow at the end though, that was supposed to be Slade. I couldn't work out who he was paralleling at all. Chose Duran Duran more or less at random.

Also, Jack Fairy -- what the hell? It was always obvious that he was important to the plot, but never obvious *why* he was important to the plot. We spent a lot of the film going "What the Hell, Jack Fairy?", in fact.

Re: More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-28 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
That was you?! I thought it was [livejournal.com profile] triadruid.

Bah. I dishonour us all.

Icon Lust

Date: 2005-11-28 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
It is my shiny. =D

Re: More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-28 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekatatia.livejournal.com
I'd have bought the random Oscar Wilde UFO before that. <--- nearly sprayed my drink on the monitor there!

Oh, the Slade in the 80's after he dramatically changed his image? That's a most insulting portrayal of 80s Bowie based on this period/image. You can kind of follow them along - very young mod Bowie, the dress era, Ziggy & Ronson, with Iggy, etc. Can't tell I live with a huge Bowie fan, can ya? We have a beautiful new book of Mick Rock's photographs from the Ziggy era at work that's full of images highly familiar from the movie. I never know what to make of the movie...seems like a love/bitter hate of Bowie.


Also, Jack Fairy -- what the hell? I've assumed he was supposed to be some kind of godfather of glam and bisexuality paving the way for the others. But it could be anything. He ties into that dorky UFO story, but then maybe that's inspired by Ziggy Stardust too.

Date: 2005-11-28 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekatatia.livejournal.com
BTW, I think Bowie should be the one with the complex that he'll never, ever, ever be as pretty as JRM.

Date: 2005-11-28 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Nah. Bowie is so cool he has no need to be pretty.

Re: How about two?

Date: 2005-11-28 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Also, it is my goal to use these icons as much as possible today, apparently :)

Science and Stuff

Date: 2005-11-28 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com
Men taking their own personal penis portraits is just so cliché....

It might be interesting to separate the results by men and women.

I noticed that you have less faith in your artistic purposes than most of us. :-)

Art, perhaps not.

Date: 2005-11-28 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greektoomey.livejournal.com
If you told me it was For Science, however, there would be no room for doubt.

Indeed

Date: 2005-11-28 11:23 pm (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (as you wish)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
Bowie is stunning in a completely different way (okay, several completely different ways) from JRM. And that's ooooo-kayyyy.

Re: Eddie Harlow

Date: 2005-11-28 11:24 pm (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (bite me)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
No, I'm pretty sure that was saff's hypothesis. I wasn't even certain if it was (supposed to be) Harlow or Monroe.

Point to Saff?

Re: Science and Stuff

Date: 2005-11-28 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was planning on doing some analysis on this one...
Men v. Women
and then sort of a cross-wise thing -- Doesn't think it's Art and wouldn't send, Doesn't think it's Art and would send, thinks it's Art and would send, thinks it's Art and wouldn't send, etc...

Also, it seemed to me that if I were to say that, that I wouldn't expect people to trust me, because really, I wouldn't trust me. Shows what I know, I suppose.

Re: Art, perhaps not.

Date: 2005-11-28 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Maybe that's a follow-up question. But I'm not sure what the science would be. I know what the art is.

Re: Science and Stuff

Date: 2005-11-29 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matchgirl42.livejournal.com
I trust you enough to not trust you, if that makes sense. At least in this particular case. ;P

Re: Science and Stuff

Date: 2005-11-29 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com
Good answer. If I am ever made God-Emporer, you will be the heir to the throne, for lo, you do get it.

*bows*

Date: 2005-11-29 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matchgirl42.livejournal.com
I've had/have some good teachers, yes I have/do. :)

Re: Art, perhaps not.

Date: 2005-11-29 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duriyah.livejournal.com
Weird Science?

Sorry. Gratuitous Oingo Boingo reference.

Re: Art, perhaps not.

Date: 2005-11-29 02:23 am (UTC)
ext_3038: Red Panda with the captain "Oh Hai!" (building a henge are we?)
From: [identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com
One SCA definition is, "Drop it on your foot. If it hurt's, it's science. If not, it's art."

Helpful, I am.

Re: More than you want to know

Date: 2005-11-29 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekatatia.livejournal.com
That's the one. I assumed the name might be a nod since they used some of his songs like 2hB, Ladytron, etc. Or I could be way off.

Date: 2005-12-01 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chronarchy.livejournal.com
In my case, I can't say "yes" or "no". . . I'd be torn, and would make a last minute decision, I imagine.

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